{"id":7513,"date":"2019-12-16T09:56:31","date_gmt":"2019-12-16T09:56:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.engagebay.com\/blog\/?p=7513"},"modified":"2025-04-25T12:50:36","modified_gmt":"2025-04-25T12:50:36","slug":"our-takeaways-from-our-interview-with-neal-schaffer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.engagebay.com\/blog\/our-takeaways-from-our-interview-with-neal-schaffer\/","title":{"rendered":"Our Takeaways from Our Interview with Neal Schaffer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A couple of months back, I took the time to speak with Neal Schaffer as part of EngageBay\u2019s ongoing interview series. Already, I\u2019ve had the pleasure of speaking with a slew of big names in sales and marketing, with Neal a very valuable addition to that list.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Schaffer is an innovator, educator, and leading social media speaker. He\u2019s been called one of the Top 5 Social Sales Influencers by Forbes. That publication has also named him one of their Top 50 Social Media Power Influencers. <a href=\"https:\/\/nealschaffer.com\/\">Neal works with businesses aiming to make a digital transformation<\/a>. His breadth of work includes training and consulting on areas like social selling, influencer marketing, social media strategy, and more.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Neal, a Mandarin Chinese and Japanese speaker, has written a slew of books, with his newest one coming out in February 2020. It\u2019s called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Age of Influence \u2013 The Power of Influencers to Elevate Your Brand.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here are some of the biggest talking points that Neal and I discussed during our interview.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><b>For Small Businesses Looking to Implement Paid Social Media, Think Carefully about Which Platform You Choose<\/b><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Neal told me that that small business can sometimes have a knee-jerk reaction when it comes to social media, assuming they need to be on Facebook. He adds that, for B2B companies, it may make more sense to create an ad budget for LinkedIn over Facebook, or at least to build up more of a presence there.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When designing your ad, Schaffer says you must first determine what the ad will be about. He mentions that small businesses want to make sales from their ads, so they should frame the ad in such a way that they get sales instead of likes. How? Neal again mentions the importance of being on the right network or social media platform. He also says it\u2019s very much necessary to have a good call to action in your ad.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-7516 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.engagebay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Neal-2.jpg\" alt=\"Neal Schaffer\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.engagebay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Neal-2.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.engagebay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Neal-2-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.engagebay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Neal-2-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.engagebay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Neal-2-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.engagebay.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/Neal-2-595xh.jpg 595w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n<h4><b>Social Media 2.0 Should Change Your Approach to Social Marketing<\/b><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Schaffer, a LinkedIn aficionado, terms this decade of social media usage as Social Media 2.0. He says everything from LinkedIn to Twitter to Facebook has matured. Thus, the same strategies you were doing five years ago, maybe even one year ago, aren\u2019t as effective as they once were.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To combat this, Neal brought up how a human approach is effective. That means influencer marketing, yes, but more so than that, it\u2019s also mandatory that businesses utilize user-generated content.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Not sure what user-generated content is? It comes from your audience and is related to your company, its products, and its services. User-generated content can include video reviews on YouTube or Instagram and even written posts on Facebook or Twitter. By combining user-generated content with your own content, you can utilize word-of-mouth marketing and spread your name around.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4><b>Social Tools Can Streamline Your Processes<\/b><\/h4>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There are so many tools out there it can make your head spin, especially when it comes to social media. I asked Neal for some recommendations. He uses the following regularly:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Agorapulse as a social media dashboard (especially on Twitter)<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SocialBee for curated content (which Schaffer says is not well-known but quite \u201crobust\u201d)<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Tailwind for Pinterest\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Plann app for Instagram\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">BuzzSumo for content curation<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">SEMRush for SEO\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">ActiveCampaign for automation and CRM\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There you go, three great takeaways from my interview with Neal Schaffer. Whether you\u2019re looking for some new tools to download, you want to make more sense out of Social Media 2.0, or you\u2019re not sure how to launch a paid social campaign, Neal\u2019s insights should provide you some great guidance.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The three points are just a few of many that we discussed during our interview. 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